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http://gma.yahoo.com/obama-announces-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

Obama declares support for gay marriage

By Rick Klein | ABC OTUS News?–?

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By Rick Klein | ABC OTUS News?–?

President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

"I have to tell you that over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don't Ask Don't Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married,” Obama told Roberts, in an interview to appear on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Thursday. Excerpts of the interview will air tonight on ABC’s “World News with Diane Sawyer.”

The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own. But he said he’s confident that more Americans will grow comfortable with gays and lesbians getting married, citing his own daughters’ comfort with the concept.


“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president continued. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know,? believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it. You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”

[Related: Join the debate about gay marriage]

Roberts asked the president if First Lady Michelle Obama was involved in this decision. Obama said she was, and he talked specifically about his own faith in responding.

“This is something that, you know, we’ve talked about over the years and she, you know, she feels the same way, she feels the same way that I do. And that is that, in the end the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people and, you know, I, you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated. And I think that’s what we try to impart to our kids and that’s what motivates me as president and I figure the most consistent I can be in being true to those precepts, the better I’ll be as a as a dad and a husband and hopefully the better I’ll be as president.”

Previously, Obama has moved in the direction of supporting same-sex marriage but has consistently stopped short of outright backing it. Instead, he’s voiced support for civil unions for gay and lesbian couples that provide the rights and benefits enjoyed by married couples, though not defined as “marriage.” At the same time, the president has opposed efforts to ban gay marriage at the state level, saying that he did not favor attempts to strip rights away from gay and lesbian couples.

The president’s position became a flashpoint this week, when Vice President Joe Biden pronounced himself “absolutely comfortable” with allowing same-sex couples to wed.

Obama aides insisted there was no daylight between the positions held by the president and his vice president when it comes to legal rights, but as other prominent Democrats also weighed in in favor of gay marriage, the disconnect became difficult for the White House to explain away.

The announcement completes a turnabout for the president, who has opposed gay marriage throughout his career in national politics. In 1996, as a state Senate candidate, he indicated support for gay marriage in a questionnaire, but Obama aides later disavowed it and said it did not reflect the candidate’s position.

In 2004, as a candidate for the US Senate, he cited his own religion in framing his views: “I'm a Christian. I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman.”
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He maintained that position through his 2008 presidential campaign, and through his term as president, until today.

As president in 2010, Obama told ABC’s Jake Tapper that his feelings about gay marriage were “constantly evolving. I struggle with this.” A year later, the president told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “I’m still working on it.”

“I probably won't make news right now, George,” Obama said in October 2011. “But I think that there's no doubt that as I see friends, families, children of gay couples who are thriving, you know, that has an impact on how I think about these issues.”

Obama’s decision has political connotations for the fall.

The issue divides elements of the Democratic base, with liberals and gay-rights groups eager to see the president go farther, but with gay marriage far less popular among African-American voters.

Just yesterday, in North Carolina, voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage. President Obama carried North Carolina in 2008, and its status as a 2012 battleground was guaranteed by Democrats’ decision to hold their convention in Charlotte this summer.

Obama’s likely Republican opponent, Mitt Romney, opposes gay marriage, and fought his state’s highest court when Massachusetts became the first state to legalize gay marriage in 2004, when Romney was governor. Romney said on the campaign trail Monday that he continues to oppose gay marriage.

“My view is that marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman,” Romney said. “That’s the position I’ve had for some time, and I don’t intend to make any adjustments at this point. … Or ever, by the way.”

3 = =2012/5/10 4:08:00

大统领??我以为我在看世界日报。。。

4 油管2012/5/10 4:18:00

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大统领??我以为我在看世界日报。。。
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NONONO
大统领一向是霓虹的說法
LZ想讓霓虹IDOL们注意到是吧XD

6 ABC News2012/5/10 4:36:00

7 日本新聞來了2012/5/10 4:46:00

膜拜

http://jiji.com/jc/c?g=int_30&k=2012051000050

同性婚支持を表明=米大統領

 【ワシントン時事】オバマ米大統領は9日、ABCテレビのインタビューで、同性婚を支持する考えを明らかにした。米大統領が同性婚への支持を表明したのは初めて。(2012/05/10-05:26)


8 = =2012/5/10 4:49:00

- -支持就支持呗,也不会让原本一个不支持的民众变支持啊

9 = =2012/5/10 4:58:00

贴出美国总统支持了的新闻又不是要请8L也支持XD

但这是重要时刻

米大统领不只是支持同性同居者的权利

並支持同性婚(marriage)

10 = =2012/5/10 4:59:00

所以咧?
跟我们有一毛钱的关系没?

11 = =2012/5/10 5:03:00

当然没关系

娛樂罷了

我IDOL你IDOL和我们有一毛钱的关系没?

12 = =2012/5/10 5:09:00

謝謝會看世界日報的那位姑娘

13 = =2012/5/10 5:50:00

- -支持就支持呗,也不会让原本一个不支持的民众变支持啊

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re,支持有p用,业务水平太差,这时候再怎么狗腿也换不回选票

14 = =2012/5/10 6:10:00

謝謝會看世界日報的那位姑娘
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LS在世界日报上班?
想说这报纸日X娱乐版就是各种哔系列大聚会
附带偶尔黒黒ZB
好几次都让我有撕毁的冲动

15 = =2012/5/10 6:21:00

他很会忽悠,我觉得他连任的可能还是挺大的!

虽然我十分讨厌这个人!

16 = =2012/5/10 6:34:00

虽然从绩效来说观海同志没多好,但是更不喜欢他这次的竞选对手= =

17 = =2012/5/10 7:06:00

之前法国总统竞选的时候奥朗德也说任期内要让同性婚姻合法化
无非是拉选票之举
真当上了竞选时的承诺没多少能兑现的

18 = =2012/5/10 7:16:00

In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters.

貌似霓虹银比米囯人更喜欢欧巴马

赚了霓虹银不少版税

19 = =2012/5/10 7:22:00

世界日报是WW的吧,也黑WW的艺人啊,中港台的艺人都黑

14居然还买世界日报看?HK的更EX,点X就好,我根本不买

20 = =2012/5/10 7:36:00

换选票?

这人IQ&EQ都高

当然知道有得必有失的道理吧

得年轻人的票

失教徒与南方保守派的票

现在谁都算不出到底是得是失

之前副座表态所以是时候表示自己私人的态度了

认为选举只是表态的导线

觉得是因为随著时间Obama真的改变了对same-sex marriage的看法

21 = =2012/5/10 7:39:00

政治家的看法…… 还是算了吧

等他用实际行动承认那天再说

而且这和XQ有个毛线关系

22 = =2012/5/10 7:46:00

他今天是用实际行动受訪承认了啊

如果只能贴和XQ有毛线关系的事

那只有GLY们自己联谊了XD

23 = =2012/5/10 7:48:00

受访也能算实际行动╮(╯▽╰)╭

另外你想说明什么还是只是想向XQer汇报奥利奥日常行程

XQer又不给奥利奥投票

24 = =2012/5/10 7:50:00

United States of America

自己承认

但不能强迫每个州都承认

25 = =2012/5/10 7:59:00

23L请看24L

请表代表所有XQers好吧

XQers有可以投票的只是你不知道而已

请没兴趣的看了BT就54根本不必进来

或请进来后再点叉

26 = =2012/5/10 8:08:00

凹疤蚂支不支持关我屁事

反正我就ANTI钙结婚合法化

27 = =2012/5/10 8:13:00

オバマ氏が同性婚容認 保守派の反発確実

 オバマ米大統領は9日、ABCテレビとのインタビューで「同性愛のカップルが結婚できるよう支持することが、私にとって重要だ」と述べ、同性婚を容認する考えを示した。ロイター通信によると、同性婚支持を公に表明した米大統領は初めて。

 同性婚に反対する保守派から強い反発が出ることは確実。再選を目指す大統領選を11月に控え、争点の1つに浮上しそうだ。共和党の大統領候補となるロムニー前マサチューセッツ州知事は同日、記者団に「結婚とは男女間の関係というのが私の考えだ」と話し、オバマ氏の姿勢を批判した。

 オバマ氏は昨年7月、同性愛者と公言して軍務に就くことを禁じた規定を撤廃し、同性愛者の全面的な受け人れを正式に始めると発表。しかしインタビューでは、規定が撤廃されても「(同性愛者は)依然として結婚することができず抑圧されている」と指摘した。

 一方で、国内で同性婚を合法化する州と禁止する州が分かれている現状から、オバマ氏は同性婚容認は「私個人としての結論」と述べ、各州が独自に規定できるとの考えを示した。

 バイデン副大統領が最近、同性婚容認を明言したため、オバマ氏の発言に関心が集まっていた。(共同)

 [2012年5月10日8時52分]http://www.nikkansports.com/general/news/f-gn-tp1-20120510-948463.html

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奥利奥一直挺支持LGBT的吧,之前不是说要搞掉don't ask don't tell吗

但是他说的话作用也有限,open的州会继续支持保守的州也会继续抵制就是了

29 = =2012/5/10 8:17:00

26anti不anti关其他XQers何事呵呵

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    オバマ米大統領が同性婚支持を表明、選挙の主要な争点に

    2012年05月10日(木)08時07分
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    5月9日、オバマ米大統領がABCテレビのインタビューで、「同性カップルの結婚は認められるべきだと思う」と述べ、同性婚を支持する考えを表明した。8日撮影(2012年 ロイター/Yuri Gripas)

    [ワシントン 9日 ロイター] オバマ米大統領は9日、ABCテレビのインタビューで、「同性カップルの結婚は認められるべきだと思う」と述べ、同性婚を支持する考えを表明した。

    米大統領が同性婚支持を公の場で明らかにしたのは初めて。オバマ大統領が所属する民主党や同性愛者の権利を擁護する団体などからは、米国の公民権の指標が示されたなどとして、大統領のコメントに称賛の声が上がった。

    一方、11月に行われる大統領選のライバル候補、ロムニー氏が所属する共和党の活動家や保守派は、オバマ大統領の発言を批判するとともに、対立を生む問題に対して政治的リスクを負ったと評した。

    保守的なキリスト教団体の代表を務めるトニー?パーキンス氏は「今回の発表で同性婚が大統領選の主要な争点の一つになることがはっきりした。大統領はロムニー氏との違いを鮮明にした」と述べた。

    政治アナリストらは、オバマ大統領は世論調査で同性婚支持者がわずかながらも多数派となっていることを踏まえ、リスクを計算した上で支持を表明したと分析している。

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    http://www.newsweekjapan.jp/headlines/world/2012/05/72532.php

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    http://jiji.com/jc/c?g=int_30&k=2012051000050

    オバマ大統領、同性婚を支持=選挙戦の争点、保守派の反発必至

     【ワシントン時事】オバマ米大統領は9日、ABCテレビのインタビューで、「同性カップルの結婚を可能にすべきだ」と述べ、同性婚を支持する考えを初めて明確に表明した。米大統領が同性婚を支持したのは初めて。
     同性婚は11月の大統領選の主要争点の一つで、米社会で賛否が大きく分かれる。再選を目指すオバマ大統領にとって、リベラル派の支持獲得が見込める一方、保守派の強い反発を受けるのは必至だ。
     大統領はこれまで、同性婚に理解を示しながらも支持を明言していなかった。この日は「一歩踏み込んで、同性カップルの結婚を可能にすべきだと考えていると断言することが重要との結論に達した」と述べた。(2012/05/10-08:04)


    32 = =2012/5/10 8:25:00

    14居然还买世界日报看?HK的更EX,点X就好,我根本不买?
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    我爸每天买了就往厕所一丢 所以……╮(╯▽╰)╭

    33 = =2012/5/10 8:29:00

    为什么要anti?与其钙遮遮掩掩甚至到顶不住鸭梨时候拉无辜的异性结婚

    还不如给他们合法的婚姻保障,别来祸害异性恋了

    34 = =2012/5/10 8:37:00

    因为toilet paper比world journal貴?

    35 = =2012/5/10 8:42:00

    说祸害的话,不是也有明明不想婚的,为了父母的期望,想找同性恋的假结婚?也别来祸害同性恋了?

    36 = =2012/5/10 8:43:00

    37 = =2012/5/10 8:48:00

    反正我就ANTI钙结婚合法化

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    赶紧支持吧,尤其是TC更应该支持,不然钙们越来越刷下限了

    我瞧着也觉得奥利奥连任可能性挺大的,虽然他除了外形精干之外看不到啥优点啊

    38 = =2012/5/10 8:49:00

    35L一出谁与争疯啊

    39 = =2012/5/10 8:51:00

    这楼是进了GAY粉么

    40 = =2012/5/10 8:51:00

    同性恋根本不是啥大不了的东西,别人喜欢谁和谁结婚关其他人屁事

    不晓得为什么有些人就喜欢急躁躁去管和自己不相干的东西

    同性恋要结婚就让结婚吧,反正和异性恋的人又没啥关系

    41 = =2012/5/10 8:58:00

    35L 被异性恋骗婚啦

    蹦的这么欢

    42 = =2012/5/10 9:26:00

    TC的话同性恋婚姻合不合法化还不是一样会有钙骗异性要小孩吗

    还不如索性不合法化更好,不过反正这事要在TC合法化现在的话根本没门

    43 = =2012/5/10 9:29:00

    38一出谁与争38
    LS别这么说
    就是支持同性婚
    异性恋同性恋两相不祸害
    难道支持同性婚的奥利奥也叫GAY粉么

    44 = =2012/5/10 9:32:00

    老实说观海这几年总统都干了点什么啊

    我除了看了几个他的段子(很搞笑)就只在大选年才发现他的存在

    45 = =2012/5/10 9:32:00

    LS是指41L吧

    46 = =2012/5/10 9:34:00

    老实说观海这几年总统都干了点什么啊

    我除了看了几个他的段子(很搞笑)就只在大选年才发现他的存在

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    击毙拉灯

    47 = =2012/5/10 9:39:00

    = =2012-5-10 9:34:00

    老实说观海这几年总统都干了点什么啊

    我除了看了几个他的段子(很搞笑)就只在大选年才发现他的存在

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    击毙拉灯

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    还有诺贝尔和平奖!!

    48 = =2012/5/10 9:42:00

    就只在大选年才发现他的存在

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    其实做总统不是作秀

    米帝其实谁做总统都一样

    从古至今就算哪位米大统领出事S了馬上有人替代国家照样运行不乱

    49 = =2012/5/10 9:45:00

    GAY合法婚姻的话不是更乱?

    50 = =2012/5/10 9:46:00

    这L走向也挺神奇的

    支持或者不支持同性婚姻只是政客权衡完利弊之后做的选择而已

    51 CNN2012/5/10 9:48:00

    http://www.cnn.co.jp/usa/30006523.html

    オバマ米大統領、同性婚支持を表明 現職米大統領で初

    2012.05.10 Thu posted at: 09:43 JST
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    (CNN) オバマ米大統領は9日に放映されたABCテレビのインタビューで、同性婚を支持すると表明した。現職の米大統領が同性婚支持を表明したのは初めて。米国の国論を二分する問題をめぐり、大統領選で共和党の指名が確実になっているミット?ロムニー前マサチューセッツ州知事と真っ向から対立することになる。

    オバマ大統領はインタビューの中で、「私は同性婚のカップルも結婚できるようにすべきだと考えている。この考えをあえて表明することは、個人的に重要だとの結論に至った」と語った。

    大統領はかつて同性婚に反対しており、伝統や宗教を重んじる立場への配慮から、「同性婚には慎重だった」と説明。しかし結婚の誓いを交わす同性カップルなどを目の当たりにして、考えが変わったとしている。

    これに先立ちバイデン副大統領も6日のNBCの番組で同性婚を支持する考えを表明。一方、ロムニー氏はCNN系列局の取材に対して9日、同性婚反対の立場を改めて表明している。

    調査機関ギャラップが8日に発表した世論調査では、同性婚を法律で認めるべきだとの回答が50%、認めるべきではないとする回答が48%と賛否が分かれていた。

    この問題をめぐっては、8日に行われたノースカロライナ州の住民投票で、同性婚を禁止する内容の州憲法が承認されている。これについてオバマ大統領は、同性愛者に対する差別に当たるとして「失望」を表明したという。

    大統領のインタビューは10日朝のABCの番組で放映予定。9日夜の番組では抜粋部分が放送された。

    52 = =2012/5/10 9:50:00

    这L是不是混进一个可以投票的奥利奥支持者

    还呵呵......WLSW吧,囧

    53 = =2012/5/10 9:51:00

    这贴太微妙了.......我整个页面格式都变微妙了OTZ

    54 = =2012/5/10 9:52:00

    为嘛要一直贴新闻啊,就算要讨论这事儿不是说一句就可以了吗,何况这事儿还没讨论必要

    55 = =2012/5/10 9:54:00

    啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号

    56 TBS News2012/5/10 9:54:00

    オバマ大統領、同性婚支持を表明

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     アメリカ大統領選へ向け、同性愛者による結婚の是非に注目が集まる中、これまで、あいまいな立場をとってきたオバマ大統領が9日、同性婚を支持する考えを初めて明らかにしました。

     「同性婚を支持することが、自分にとっても重要だとの結論に至った」(アメリカ オバマ大統領)

     アメリカでは、首都ワシントンと7つの州が同性婚を認める一方、保守色の強い南部ノースカロライナ州が8日、その禁止を決定したことから、オバマ大統領の発言が注目されていました。

     これまで、同性婚への立場をあいまいにしてきたオバマ大統領ですが、足元の民主党リベラル派などから大統領に反発する声が高まり、支持の立場を鮮明にしたものです。

     共和党のロムニー候補は同性婚に反対していて、今回の発言が大統領選のカギを握る州の一つ、ノースカロライナの選挙戦に与える影響に関心が集まっています。(10日08:39)http://news.tbs.co.jp/newseye/tbs_newseye5025668.html

    57 = =2012/5/10 9:55:00

    为什么被框框框起来了?

    58 = =2012/5/10 9:56:00

    啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号
    ================
    我也是……

    59 = =2012/5/10 9:57:00

    anti同婚的是天朝的Gay么
    不管怎么说如果能在天朝合法的话比起是给他们权力,更是要让他们履行义务啊

    60 = =2012/5/10 10:07:00

    XQWZ本来时差党就多,米帝时差的不少吧,之前有位小学时和母上两人拿绿卡进米帝,现在在上大学的小三团饭,不是就已是公民可以投票了?

    61 = =2012/5/10 10:35:00

    啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号
    ================
    我也是……
    ============
    +1...

    62 = =2012/5/10 11:01:00

    对观海没什么感觉,但是更不喜欢机器人米蓉泥。。。

    63 = =2012/5/10 11:03:00

    现在对奥利奥这人很微妙啊
    不过感觉这回公开支持同性婚姻 得罪的那群选民都是本来也不会选他的
    他算盘打得很精

    64 = =2012/5/10 11:08:00

    一直贴日版新闻的什么诉求啊,要上洋文也是上原文好嘛一一

    65 = =2012/5/10 11:12:00

    奥利奥是教徒不?

    66 = =2012/5/10 12:46:00

    = =2012-5-10 11:12:00
    奥利奥是教徒不?
    =========
    DL上的原文
    you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it’s also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated.

    67 = =2012/5/10 12:50:00

    一直贴日版新闻的什么诉求啊,要上洋文也是上原文好嘛一一
    =========
    DL早上了洋文的原文
    诉求?在J+XQ上J+看得懂的日版新闻你说这是什么诉求?

    68 = =2012/5/10 12:51:00

    = =2012-5-10 7:59:00

    23L请看24L

    请表代表所有XQers好吧

    XQers有可以投票的只是你不知道而已

    请没兴趣的看了BT就54根本不必进来

    或请进来后再点叉

    ============

    69 = =2012/5/10 12:52:00

    = =2012-5-10 7:59:00

    23L请看24L

    请表代表所有XQers好吧

    XQers有可以投票的只是你不知道而已

    请没兴趣的看了BT就54根本不必进来

    或请进来后再点叉

    ============

    其实LZ你真不必这样, 不如直接在BT上写“拿绿卡能投票的米国少女进来”也算开了XQ先河

    70 = =2012/5/10 12:59:00

    = =2012-5-10 11:03:00
    现在对奥利奥这人很微妙啊
    不过感觉这回公开支持同性婚姻 得罪的那群选民都是本来也不会选他的
    他算盘打得很精
    =========
    对这人一直很比秒
    但敌人总是越少越好不是嘛
    谁会选被人认为算盘打得不精的笨蛋做总统?

    71 = =2012/5/10 13:02:00

    其实LZ你真不必这样, 不如直接在BT上写“拿绿卡能投票的米国少女进来”也算开了XQ先河

    =========

    NONONO,FYI,只拿到绿卡不能投票

    这L是最新消息楼不是选举楼吧

    72 = =2012/5/10 13:18:00

    民主党一向支持同性恋的,而且还支持堕胎

    共和党则比较保守

    73 = =2012/5/10 13:30:00

    嗯一向支持同性恋,而公开说支持同性是支持同性的最高极啊

    74 = =2012/5/10 13:33:00

    奥黑没政绩,不过连任应该还是妥妥的吧,共和党这一次完全是搞笑艺人轮番登场啊
    不怕神一样的对手,就怕猪一样的队友的完美阐释

    75 = =2012/5/10 13:34:00

    一直贴日版新闻的什么诉求啊,要上洋文也是上原文好嘛一一
    =========
    DL早上了洋文的原文
    诉求?在J+XQ上J+看得懂的日版新闻你说这是什么诉求?
    --------------
    囧,非LSS不过观海同志的新闻有什么必要上日语版?
    还J+看得懂的日版新闻................

    76 = =2012/5/10 13:36:00

    奥黑没政绩,不过连任应该还是妥妥的吧,共和党这一次完全是搞笑艺人轮番登场啊
    不怕神一样的对手,就怕猪一样的队友的完美阐释
    ===================
    那也不一定,小BS这么猪不还是连任了
    那时候采访一个给小BS投票的老太太,问她为啥支持他,老太太说,他跟我们门口的一个小孩一样,傻乎乎的,不会骗人

    77 = =2012/5/10 13:57:00

    啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号
    ================
    我也是……
    ============
    +1...

    =========

    还有好多分割线和框框

    我是不是进错了地方

    78 = =2012/5/10 14:41:00

    又想起那个耶鲁的C学生和德州A&M的C学生的区别了,哈

    罗姆尼一是摩门教,二是1%,只交15%的税,要我能投,我都不投他

    不过奥8能否连任还看今年股票走势,其实不算乐观

    79 = =2012/5/10 17:29:00

    75L有什么必要非要知道人上日语版的原因?

    80 = =2012/5/10 18:13:00

    You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.

    ======================

    能理解不少华裔美人私下支持同性恋外表反对同性婚为得是下一代

    但OBAMA为了下一代从外表反对同性婚改变成支持同性婚

    81 Why2012/5/11 1:32:00

    Gay marriage, Obama and the fierce urgency of now: Why did he do it this week?

    ?
    Walter Shapiro's Yahoo! News column examines what we know about the character and personalities of the 2012 candidates. Shapiro, who is covering his ninth presidential campaign, is also a special correspondent for the New Republic.
    Even now, during the closing months of his first term, Barack Obama remains a curiously elusive political leader. That is why the abrupt conclusion to his evolution on gay marriage, announced Wednesday in an interview with ABC’s Robin Roberts, is one of the most fascinating moments in his presidency. Glib theories about Obama’s often-cautious approach to the presidency, especially in an election year, have to be revamped in light of his sudden endorsement of gay marriage.

    There is a temptation to view the turnabout solely in electoral terms. Obama himself said that the politics of same-sex marriage “may hurt me.” But perhaps the president made the calculation that he was willing to risk the loss of a fraction of socially conservative swing voters in states like Ohio in order to guarantee the enthusiasm of his top fundraisers. (A Washington Post analysis found that almost 20 percent of Obama’s bundlers have publicly revealed that they are gay). Maybe there is even private Obama polling indicating that November turnout among voters in the millennial generation is apt to be higher if the president took a firm position on gay marriage.

    Such political narrowcasting misses an essential truth about Obama: his pride and his fear of embarrassment. Joe Biden, by offering an emotional response to the gay-marriage question Sunday on “Meet the Press,” left Obama looking like the Cowardly Lion unable to find his heart until after the election. For Obama to keep mulling the issue as if he were taking a private course in Talmudic Studies would make the president seem faintly ridiculous.

    Even if the gay-marriage issue was seen as a dangerous distraction by Obama’s reelection campaign, all the president’s handlers could not wish it away. Whether it was the awkward necessity of writing evasive language for the gay marriage plank in the Democratic platform or seeing his campaign surrogates constantly grilled on the question, Obama undoubtedly knew that his room for maneuver was constrained. So the president, after 72 hours of reflection, did the right thing.

    Both as an African American and as the nation’s first president who grew up after the climactic days of the civil-rights movement, Obama undoubtedly has wondered how he would have reacted if he had found himself on the frontlines of that transcendent moral issue. Obviously, no one is opposing gay marriages with dogs, fire hoses and billy clubs. But this issue is the closest proxy that 21st-century America has to offer to the which-side-are-you-on struggles of the 1960s. In moral terms, it is quite possible that Obama could not personally endure further equivocation.

    In making his decision to walk down the aisle with gay marriage, Obama underscored his awareness that poll-tested politics can only carry you so far in the Oval Office, even in an election year. During Saturday’s campaign kick-off rally in Columbus, Ohio, Michelle Obama told the crowd that the problems that reach the president’s desk “are the ones with no clear solutions--the judgment calls where the stakes are so high and there is no margin for error.” The first lady may have been alluding to the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden, but the same principle could be extended to the president’s decision about his public support for gay marriage.

    In November 2003, the highest court in Massachusetts ruled that gay marriage was legal based on the state constitution. The Massachusetts governor at the time--who by a weird twist of fate was Mitt Romney--vehemently opposed the decision by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court. Massachusetts Senator John Kerry’s struggle to defeat George W. Bush in the 2004 election was complicated by the liberal high court decision in his home state, even though he distanced himself from the ruling.

    During the 2004 campaign, it would have seemed ludicrous and embarrassingly naive to imagine that a future president--especially one facing a difficult reelection campaign--would endorse gay marriage. Maybe in 2028, but certainly not in 2012. But such is the engine of social change, slowly chugging up the hill with I-think-I-can determination and then dramatically accelerating once it is over the crest. With an unequivocal statement by Obama on Wednesday, gay marriage suddenly became codified as--at minimum--a bedrock principle of the Democratic Party.

    When political handicappers rattle off the hard-to-predict variables that will shape the election and the challenges of the presidency in 2013, they invariably point to the economy and global threats such as the Iranian nuclear program. But such armchair attempts at prophecy are often too cautious and the horizon too limited. Sometimes, it is as simple as a president confronted with a moral choice--and his awareness that the time for temporizing and hand wringing is over.

    http://news.yahoo.com/gay-marriage--obama-and-the-fierce-urgency-of-now--why-did-he-do-it-this-week-.html

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/obama-sex-marriage-legal-16312940?tab=9482931§ion=4765066

    82 = =2012/5/11 1:47:00

    凹疤蚂支不支持关我屁事

    反正我就ANTI钙结婚合法化

    =============================

    gay如果婚姻合法化

    也少点骗婚的不是么= =

    讨厌gay的人应该支持他们结婚才对

    省的出来祸害别人了

    83 = =2012/5/11 7:25:00

    自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

    骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

    84 = =2012/5/11 11:35:00

    = =2012-5-10 9:54:00
    啊,为什么一进这贴,我的鼠标小脑袋上就长了个问号
    -------------------
    +1
    大丈夫大丈夫

    85 = =2012/5/11 17:34:00

    自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

    骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

    -----------------

    这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

    你这种说法就像是反正我们吃什么都有毒,生病跟有没吃到地沟油没有必然关系,所以我们就不用去杜绝地沟油了

    86 = =2012/5/11 17:50:00

    有个疑问这帖子干嘛各式各样新闻贴了一堆?不是都大同小异在讲同样的东西么又不是地震那会儿各种实时新闻动态每个都贴贴,还是LZ其实是想讨论米大选?

    87 = =2012/5/11 18:09:00

    有个疑问这帖子干嘛各式各样新闻贴了一堆?不是都大同小异在讲同样的东西么又不是地震那会儿各种实时新闻动态每个都贴贴,还是LZ其实是想讨论米大选?

    ============

    同不明白LZ的意图……到底是要讨论同性婚姻还是讨论米国大选……那句微妙的“XQ自然有人能投票”是说不能投票的也不让看热闹闲聊?囧

    88 = =2012/5/11 23:09:00

    不明白意图那就都讨论好啦

    LS们讨论同性婚姻或讨论米国大选的都有啊

    89 = =2012/5/11 23:15:00

    自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

    骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

    -----------------

    这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

    你这种说法就像是反正我们吃什么都有毒,生病跟有没吃到地沟油没有必然关系,所以我们就不用去杜绝地沟油了

    ==========
    你LS的意思是不管同性恋异性恋都有骗婚的,大家彼此彼此吧

    90 - -2012/5/11 23:16:00

    = =2012-5-11 17:34:00

    自古異性婚就合法是吧,但你看是異性恋的出来骗婚的祸害了别人的,不是仍不少嘛XD

    骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= =

    -----------------

    这明显是两个问题,异性恋也存在骗婚现象跟同性恋婚姻合法化能减少同性恋骗婚有冲突吗?

    ----------------------------------

    LS的"异性恋也存在骗婚现象"不就证明你LS的"骗不骗婚的,和是不是同性恋的,有必然关系么= ="XD

    91 = =2012/5/11 23:32:00

    挺好

    92 - -2012/5/12 0:14:00

    我是90L和89L握手!
    这L有不支持同性恋同性婚的当然可以,这是个人自由
    但现实是同性恋者和异性恋者都有骗婚事件
    而异性恋者古早就能合法结婚了,合法结婚防止了减少了异性恋者的骗婚事件吗?
    所以,看到有人拿让同性恋者能合法结婚来防止来减少同性恋者的骗婚事件,看到这种其实根本是在骗自己的逻辑,真的很。。。
    减少异性恋者同性恋者的骗婚事件,最重要是自己睁大眼看清楚对方吧
    现在专找富二代官二代骗钱求官的骗婚事件表太多,骗婚的人根本不在乎被骗的是同性恋者或异性恋者

    93 = =2012/5/12 0:32:00

    因是同性恋骗人结婚的

    比是异性恋骗钱骗婚的

    少太多了吧

    94 = =2012/5/12 0:39:00

    XQ的传统就是只要不黑不掐流量第一正楼歪楼请便

    95 = =2012/5/12 2:12:00

    如果有位同性戀不是為了騙財或騙其他,單純為了掩蓋他(或她)是同性戀的事實而向一位異性騙婚

    那麼就算同性婚合法N年了,他(或她)就會出櫃去和同性伴侶結婚公開他(或她)自己的性向嗎?

    所以同性婚合法,完全不會減少想和異性結婚以不公開自己性向的騙婚

    同性婚=公開自己性向

    96 = =2012/5/12 2:33:00

    现在专找富二代官二代骗钱求官的骗婚事件表太多,骗婚的人根本不在乎被骗的是同性恋者或异性恋者
    ===============================================
    多能多到哪去
    而且大多是舆论洗出来的
    中国社会就像个金字塔
    越往上人越少,处于塔尖的那些富二代官二代还是极少的

    97 = =2012/5/12 3:09:00

    嗯,处于塔尖的那些富二代官二代还是极少的

    穷人却爱打肿脸充胖子炫富的表太多好了吧

    骗人婚的会去想什么处于塔尖不塔尖的么?

    只有一万的,想骗有百万的婚

    只有十万的,想骗有千万的婚

    只要比自家富百倍

    官比自家的高十倍

    就是骗人婚的人们眼中的富二代官二代

    小心为上

    正楼

    关键是

    同性能结婚,不能防止想瞒父母家人社会,根本不可能去和同性结婚的同性恋者的骗婚

    98 = =2012/5/12 12:30:00

    interesting

    99 2012/06/062012/6/7 0:28:00

    Majority of Americans support legalizing same-sex marriage, poll shows

    100 = =2012/6/7 0:30:00

    A majority of Americans — 54% — say same-sex marriages should be legally recognized, while 42% are opposed, according to a CNN/ORC International Survey released Wednesday.

    The poll showed a sharp partisan divide on the issue, with seven in 10 Democrats as well as six in 10 independent voters saying same-sex marriages should be legal, and 72% of Republicans opposed.

    President Barack Obama announced his support for same-sex marriage in an ABC News interview in early May, but Mitt Romney says he does not support gay marriage or civil unions.

    The poll results come the day after the Ninth U.S. Circuit Appeals Court in San Francisco declined to revisit its earlier decision that ruled California's Proposition 8 unconstitutional and said gay and lesbian couples could marry.

    The poll also found that the number of Americans who say they know somebody who is gay has jumped from 49% in 2010 to 60% now.

    The CNN poll was conducted by ORC International from May 29-31, with 1,009 adults nationwide questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, with a sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for registered voters.

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