每个人心里都有一次玛丽苏

俺是玛丽苏成我儿子娘...

俺真正直啊

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同正直...

对着我儿我是苏不起来啊...跑走...

我基本上有事没事就苏一下

还老是要苏个第三者

然后俺就想 不行啊 俺最后得和俺儿在一起呀

然后重来 - -||

从小学开始

现苏同学老师

再苏动漫人物历史人物

现在苏本命。。

啥桥段都苏了。。。

现在看到啥事都拿来苏一苏。。。

从来没有玛丽苏过儿子

什么二维的人物之类的都没有过

却一直苏着别家的那位

我真的想不通自己啊，对自己本命从来都苏不起来

那个谁，明明只是DJ而已，却一直苏着，太神奇了……

以前经常苏，现在也苏，只是没时间去想。

orz我是那狗血的苏啊……

从来没有玛丽苏过儿子

什么二维的人物之类的都没有过

却一直苏着别家的那位

我真的想不通自己啊，对自己本命从来都苏不起来

那个谁，明明只是DJ而已，却一直苏着，太神奇了……

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苏的是旺旺？

还苏过唐僧和他大徒弟

从小苏到大。。。。。

65 .= =2008-2-27 19:29:00

是说wiki上的解释娱乐到我了

原来还有这么多种的mary sue...

Sub-concepts of or relating to "Mary Sue"

Frequent subtypes or sub-subtypes of perceived "Mary Sues" will be named on the fly using certain patterns. Two of the most common methods of doing this are listed below:

• The ! convention. Generally this is a one-word description of the character as portrayed in a particular story, set against the word "Sue" with a?! symbol, e.g. rebel!Sue (to denote a rebellious character seen as a "Mary Sue"). For "canon-Sues" the symbol is usually preceded by the canon character's name. It may also be used to ascribe traits to non-Sues. This convention is limited to online use.

• The - convention. Used less frequently (in part due to less freedom, as the ! convention allows for multiple descriptors; for example, goth!alien!rebel!Sue), but still used nonetheless in some areas of fandom.

[edit] "Angsty" Sue

This subconcept of the larger "Mary Sue" concept comes in two common variations. The first is a character who is constantly depressed and has an excessively tragic past, frequently involving such things as child abuse, rape, or abandonment of some sort. She or he often feels guilt for something that happened in the past, even though it is usually not his or her fault, which gives his or her the ability to feel bad about something without having done anything wrong. Generally, if she or he doesn't commit romanticized suicide, then only the love or close friendship of one or more canon characters can convince her that she is not responsible for a tragic or horrific childhood or event that was obviously not of her making. The idea is that such backgrounds, if poorly handled, constitute an ill-advised attempt to gain sympathy from the reader. Examples of this are the character Jaenelle Angelline from the Black Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop and, to a lesser extent, the character of Honor Harrington.

The other version of the "Angsty Sue" subconcept involves a character who has a similarly tragic past, but rather than angsting about it, she or he seeks revenge for what's been done to his or her family/home village/civilization, etc. She or he is thrust into the spotlight of the story while doing so. The writer is seen as using his or her past not merely as a device to gain sympathy, but also to claim moral superiority and justification for his or her actions - often poorly. As such, this type of "Angsty Sue" rarely has any guilt at all - after all, she or he hasn't done anything 'wrong'.

[edit] Anti-Sue

Some authors make an extreme effort to avoid making their character into a "Mary Sue". The attempts or results of such attempts are sometimes referred to as "Anti-Sues". Given that the key difference between a well-developed, sympathetic character and a "Mary Sue" is often considered to be a lack of realistic faults, this generally involves making such characters extremely flawed. Some such attempts are seen as generally working - creating interesting, three-dimensional characters - though others are seen as being similarly over-the-top as the more stereotypical "Mary Sue".

"Anti-Sue" traits include physical unattractiveness, poorly handled mental illness (including sociopathy and psychopathy), noticeably lacking in power or competency relative to other characters, being generally disliked by others or never interacting with them, cowardice, and other unflattering characteristics. While characters who can arguably be described as "Anti-Sues" have proved popular in some fiction, especially in modern times (see anti-hero), at other times they may be poorly-received, perceived to be as bad or even worse than "Mary Sues" for their cliché nature or lack of sympathetic traits. A poorly-regarded "Anti-Sue" is viewed as merely another cliché stock character, or even simply an anti-hero variation of the "Sue" - especially if he or she still manages to take the spotlight away from the canon heroes.

[edit] Canon-Sue (in fan fiction)

The term "canon-Sue" (also written as canon!Sue) or "Possession Sue" is used to describe canon characters who are changed significantly from their original canon characterization and sometimes even divorced from their original context completely. Such characters are seen as having been heavily idealized to the point of being more of a stand-in for the author's wish fulfillment than being the original canon character.

Characters most frequently labeled "canon-Sues" often develop the typical associated over-the-top traits of a "Mary Sue" with little precedent or explanation, a process sometimes called "sueification." Some examples are the discoveries of tragic pasts and abilities superior to other canon characters, the elimination or romanticization of flaws, and being antagonized by characters disliked by the fan-author while befriended by canon characters liked by the author - regardless of how friendly or unfriendly they were before.

If the "canon-Sue" deviates enough from the original, it may be referred to jocularly as an act of "canon rape" - a term often used when a significant (and disliked) change has been made to the canon world or characters, such as when a former hero is vilified without explanation, a character who is unpopular in the canon but then receives a make-over and becomes popular, or a usually-chaste canon character is easily seduced by a fan-created "Mary Sue" character. Even in alternate universe stories where the premise ostensibly might involve examining how the story might play out differently if characters behaved differently, many readers criticize such changes as being too extreme.

[edit] Canon Sue (in original source)

A "canon Sue" may also refer to a character whose canon portrayal itself is seen as a "Mary Sue", rather than a character who has been altered in fan fiction. Typically, this refers to a character accused of being overly idealized or having other traits traditionally associated with fan fiction "Mary Sues", such as being "special" by having a gratuitously tragic past, unrealistic skills, or a seeming inability for the character to do wrong. Characters such as Wesley Crusher^[1] and Amanda Rogers^[1] in Star Trek: The Next Generation have been criticized as being "Mary Sues."

[edit] Gary Stu/Marty Stu/Larry Stu

A male "Mary Sue" may be referred to as a "Gary Stu" [1], "Larry Stu" [2], or a "Marty Stu" [3]. References to male characters being a "Gary Stu" (or similar masculinized term) are less common than those to female "Mary Sues." They are generally identified as being much cooler, tougher, and sexier than the canon characters.

While Gary Stu can be interpreted as the male version of the perfect character, he will often display more extreme anti-hero traits than the typical Mary Sue, such as unfair burdens to bear and terrible childhoods. While anti-heroes have in recent times become increasingly more popular among fans (such as Wolverine and Jack Sparrow) the most notable qualities for a Mary Sue still persist - a Gary Stu manipulates the canon universe around him, and furthermore he lacks an individual personality - he is just another special snowflake.

[edit] Parody Sue

This "Mary Sue" is intentionally created for a parody, usually aimed at readers who are familiar with the "Mary Sue" concept, and dislike said "Sues." Her vast repertoire of skills and lack of personality are emphasized in a humorous way and generally, one of two things happens in the story:

• She succeeds and everyone in the canon universe falls under her buxom charms.
• She fails, either because there are too many other "Mary Sues" fighting her, because another of the author's original characters interferes, or because the canon characters see how uninteresting she really is.

Note that the "original" Mary Sue from "A Trekkie's Tale" is in fact a Parody Sue.

[edit] Self-insertion

Self-insertion is used to describe clear (and usually seen as indisputable) cases where the author has directly inserted a version of him- or herself into the story in lieu of a wholly or even partly original character, generally going so far as to use the same name or pseudonym for character and author. Though some author surrogates are common in fiction - such as Stephen King in his Dark Tower series, Philip Roth in several of his novels, or Lin Carter in his work - "self-inserts" in fan fiction are frequently seen as the most blatant of "Mary Sues", especially when heavily idealized. Some online fan fiction archives have an outright ban on any story which involves self-insertion. They are also sometimes frowned down upon on Role-playing communities, despite that some argue that it is easier for inexperienced or casual role-players to learn.

[edit] Villain-Sue

"Villain-Sue" usually replaces, befriends or is romantically involved with a major canon villain. Other traits include defeating canon characters with ease, secretly having redeeming qualities, having a tragic past that somehow excuses and justifies all her heinous deeds and letting the canon characters live when she could kill them — not out of bad qualities such as wanting to see them suffer, a desire to have all of them as prisoners at once, or wanting to gloat, but because she really isn't so evil others as might think. In fact, she may even secretly be a hero, or have hidden heroic tendencies. Good authors may be able to do this well and convincingly, but when written badly, this can be seen as a variant of the "Angsty Sue" seen above.

幻想过自己和IDOL因为朋友的朋友的朋友的无限个朋友的关系而成为朋友

算不算MARY SUE?

真的是很CJ的朋友关系,没事上个MSN聊聊什么的= =|||

是女人都mary sue...俺認為