霓虹311消息JZ

7581= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:39:00

超标是要销毁的,退回去哪儿去,霓虹也不敢要了吧
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问个白痴问题,碟子神马的洗洗可以么。。。。

7582= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:40:00

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不知道海运可靠不可靠
路上二三十天能把放身寸性物质给弄完吗………………
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要看是啥放射性物质了
碘131的半衰期是8天左右,如果32天后到你手上,放射性会是原来的1/16,铯137半衰期将近30年,2、30天放射性能量大概一点都没减少……
乃唯一可以放心的就是无论如何都不用去抢碘片了orz

7583= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:41:00

超标是要销毁的,退回去哪儿去,霓虹也不敢要了吧
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问个白痴问题,碟子神马的洗洗可以么。。。。
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问题是一旦沾上了海关不会让入境的

7584= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:41:00

= =2011-3-19 2:36:00

没写完就发了,衣袖和鞋底的话,就是类似于粉尘落到地上,人走过擦过沾染的吧?

台湾查出辐身寸超标的是在地上席地坐过,导致库子与鞋沾染超标的。

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只能说明放身寸物质早有部分飘过且落地,甚至混人土壤

为啥不公布什么元素啊,光是碘吗?

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如果只是碘那就什么都好说,如果有铯就苦逼了

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已经官方发表过了,有少量铯,在东京检测到铯和碘的时间是16号还是15号,然后后面就没检测到了

看法国那个NGO做的视频,除开少量会跟着粉尘落地,大部分都被吹到太平洋里去了,碘和铯都不重

PS:我比较好奇,因为看度娘铯是遇水就会爆炸的,为啥到太平洋里了没爆炸囧


7585= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:43:00

忽然想到个问题哦,上面机构自测东京辐射值是测空气,有人测过土壤吗?


7586= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:44:00

我比较好奇,因为看度娘铯是遇水就会爆炸的,为啥到太平洋里了没爆炸囧

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……那就肯定不能洗掉了,因为洗了会爆炸orz


7587= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:45:00

PS:我比较好奇,因为看度娘铯是遇水就会爆炸的,为啥到太平洋里了没爆炸囧

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爆炸也得有那个量啊,爆炸就是剧烈的能量释放,如果铯太少了,遇水就算反应了你也看不出来啊


7588= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:46:00

= =2011-3-19 2:45:00

PS:我比较好奇,因为看度娘铯是遇水就会爆炸的,为啥到太平洋里了没爆炸囧

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爆炸也得有那个量啊,爆炸就是剧烈的能量释放,如果铯太少了,遇水就算反应了你也看不出来啊

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多谢LS。。。。


7589= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:47:00

好吧,这两天有没有顺利收到老H或者ZB的GN?

EMS的,海运啥的太遥远了不要算了

就是13号以后寄出的


7590= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:52:00

超标是要销毁的,退回去哪儿去,霓虹也不敢要了吧
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问个白痴问题,碟子神马的洗洗可以么。。。。
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同疑惑
ww那个被检出放射性物质的是说鞋子经过清洗也无法清理掉放射性物质所以才销毁鞋子
但是各方宣传又说防辐射遗留最好的办法就是洗澡
莫非某些放射性物质能洗掉某些洗不掉?
不过乃的碟子就算洗了,放射性物质也是随着乃家下水道进入大环境造成污染而已

7591= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:54:00

The boss of the company behind the devastated Japanese nuclear reactor today broke down in tears - as his country finally acknowledged the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens

daily mail的消息。简单来说就是东电老板承认辐射比他们报得高,达到致死地步。


7592= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:55:00

我。。。我目瞪口呆了。。。

The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 5:47 PM on 18th March 2011

  • Officials admit they may have to bury reactors under concrete - as happened at Chernobyl
  • Government says it was overwhelmed by the scale of twin disasters
  • Japanese upgrade accident from level four to five - the same as Three Mile Island
  • We will rebuild from scratch says Japanese prime minister
  • Particles spewed from wrecked Fukushima power station arrive in California
  • Military trucks tackle reactors with tons of water for second day

  • 7593= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:56:00

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html#ixzz1Gyd0dn5m

    The boss of the company behind the devastated Japanese nuclear reactor today broke down in tears - as his country finally acknowledged the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens

    Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency admitted that the disaster was a level 5, which is classified as a crisis causing 'several radiation deaths' by the UN International Atomic Energy.

    Officials said the rating was raised after they realised the full extent of the radiation leaking from the plant. They also said that 3 per cent of the fuel in three of the reactors at the Fukushima plant had been severely damaged, suggesting those reactor cores have partially melted down.

    After Tokyo Electric Power Company Managing Director Akio Komiri cried as he left a conference to brief journalists on the situation at Fukushima, a senior Japanese minister also admitted that the country was overwhelmed by the scale of the tsunami and nuclear crisis.

    He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were.

    Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: 'The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.

    'In hindsight, we could have moved a little quicker in assessing the situation and coordinating all that information and provided it faster.'

    Nuclear experts have been saying for days that Japan was underplaying the crisis' severity.

    It is now officially on a par with the Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania in 1979. Only the explosion at Chernobyl in 1986 has topped the scale.

    Deputy director general of the NISA, Hideohiko Nishiyama, also admitted that they do not know if the reactors are coming under control.

    He said: 'With the water-spraying operations, we are fighting a fire we cannot see. That fire is not spreading, but we cannot say yet that it is under control.'

    But prime minister Naoto Kan insisted that his country would overcome the catastrophe

    'We will rebuild Japan from scratch,' he said in a televised speech: 'In our history, this small island nation has made miraculous economic growth thanks to the efforts of all Japanese citizens. That is how Japan was built.'

    It comes after pictures emerged showing overheating fuel rods exposed to the elements through a huge hole in the wall of a reactor building at the destroyed Fukushima nuclear plant.


    7594= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:57:00

    = =2011-3-19 2:52:00
    超标是要销毁的,退回去哪儿去,霓虹也不敢要了吧
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    问个白痴问题,碟子神马的洗洗可以么。。。。
    ==========
    同疑惑
    ww那个被检出放身寸性物质的是说鞋子经过清洗也无法清理掉放身寸性物质所以才销毁鞋子
    但是各方宣传又说防辐身寸遗留最好的办法就是洗澡
    莫非某些放身寸性物质能洗掉某些洗不掉?
    不过乃的碟子就算洗了,放身寸性物质也是随着乃家下水道进人大环境造成污染而已
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    可是那个新闻又说
    那个WW记者自己在检查前已经洗过澡了所以他身上检查不出来超标辐射和核物质
    于是洗澡是有用的

    7595= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:58:00

    没人更新这个消息吗?东电给反应堆接上外部电源了,先2号,后1,3,4,因为2号被认为损伤最小

    TEPCO connects line, can supply power to Daiichi plant

    (Reuters) - Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said Friday it has connected the external transmission line with the stricken Daiichi nuclear power plant inJapan?and confirmed that electricity can be supplied.

    In a statement, the company said, "It planned to supply Unit 2 first, followed by Unit 1, Unit 3 and Unit 4 ... because Unit 2 is expected to be less damaged."

    (Reporting by?Scott DiSavino)


    7596= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:59:00

    好像没人看新闻了?
    1. 1836: More on the international spread of radiation from the damaged Fukushima plant. Radiation from the leaking nuclear station has reached California, across the Pacific, says the Press Association, but in minute levels, according to experts that are well below the harmful threshold.
    证实福岛的核污染飘过太平洋到达了美国加州,专家称量极小对人无害

    感叹一下核真不是一个国家的事,难怪奥利奥昨天要讲话。。


    7597= =发表于:2011/3/19 2:59:00

    = =2011-3-19 2:45:00

    PS:我比较好奇,因为看度娘铯是遇水就会爆炸的,为啥到太平洋里了没爆炸囧

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    爆炸也得有那个量啊,爆炸就是剧烈的能量释放,如果铯太少了,遇水就算反应了你也看不出来啊

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    唔,其实现在飘出来的铯肯定不是以铯单质的形态存在了

    它太活泼了,早就跟空气里的水分子反应了

    飘出来的应该是溶在水气里的氢氧化铯



    7598拽哥马份发表于:2011/3/19 3:03:00

    = =2011-3-19 2:55:00

    我。。。我目瞪口呆了。。。

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    我怎么记得前面有谁贴过一个日语新闻,说福岛核电站附近的辐射量是16秒致死的。。。囧?

    是我记错了么,因为当时就16秒致死这个问题貌似讨论了很久= =,于是现在是官方承认了


    7599= =发表于:2011/3/19 3:04:00

    = =2011-3-19 2:40:00
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    不知道海运可靠不可靠
    路上二三十天能把放身寸性物质给弄完吗………………
    ==========
    要看是啥放身寸性物质了
    碘131的半衰期是8天左右,如果32天后到你手上,放身寸性会是原来的1/16,铯137半衰期将近30年,2、30天放身寸性能量大概一点都没减少……
    乃唯一可以放心的就是无论如何都不用去抢碘片了orz

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    不过半衰期长意味着衰变缓慢吧,这样单位时间放出的放射线也会少,所以才会有潜伏期之类的


    7600= =发表于:2011/3/19 3:07:00

    The boss of the company behind the devastated Japanese nuclear reactor today broke down in tears - as his country finally acknowledged the radiation spewing from the over-heating reactors and fuel rods was enough to kill some citizens
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    东电终于承认过热的反应堆和燃料棒的放射性足以杀死部分平民